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A 4-week live cohort by Moat Podcasts

Build the network that builds your future. Without quitting your job.

Start a tiny interview podcast and spend four weeks getting in the room with people you admire. It is the lowest-risk, highest-leverage thing an ambitious professional can do. No audience, no ads, no cold outreach.

Claim a founding seat from $500

Built on a client book worth $884,000 that came from relationships, not ad funnels.

4 weeks
From zero to your first interviews
~300
Interviews behind the system
$59.5k
A single referral it produced
30
Founding seats, then it is closed

I know so many antsy employees.

You want to be an entrepreneur. But you do not have a good idea. You do not want to buy a business. You do not even know what you would talk about on LinkedIn.

So you just sit with the itch.

Being antsy does not mean you should do something big or dumb.

You do not need an SBA loan. You do not need a franchise. You do not need to bet your savings on an app idea. You need something near zero cost and extremely productive.

Is this you?

You have a good job, and a quiet feeling you are meant for your next thing.

Maybe that next thing is your own business one day. Maybe it is breaking into a new industry. Maybe you were just laid off and you are deciding what is next. Either way, you are a 25 to 45 professional who already knows the answer is not another course or another cold application. It is who you know.

A tiny interview podcast is a better way to explore your interests, build real relationships, and have a project that actually goes somewhere. All without blowing six figures on an SBA loan, a franchise, or a stupid app idea to find out if you are cut out for this.

By the time your opportunity shows up, saying yes is a no brainer.

A letter from Louis

A podcast can completely change your life. It changed mine.

In March 2020 I was a college kid with no idea how to make money. But I knew one thing: I wanted to be an entrepreneur one day. Stuck inside during lockdown, I bought a microphone, taught myself to use GarageBand, and started interviewing people who were living the lives I wanted to live.

I had no audience. For a long time I had almost no listeners. By any normal metric the show was a failure.

Twenty interviews in, I spent three hours talking with a writer I had read for years. Inside the first twenty five episodes I was sitting across from a venture capitalist whose work I had followed for years. That same year I hosted a small summit and interviewed thirty podcasters, including names you would know. I got almost no views. I still call it one of the most important things I have ever done.

Here is what I wrote in my journal that year, before any of it paid me a dollar: social leverage is more robust than financial leverage.

I kept going for close to 300 interviews. Those conversations put me in rooms I could never have cold emailed my way into. One season of interviews became a relationship with one company. That single relationship turned into $36,000 of clients and referred the biggest client of my career, worth $59,500.

The agency I went on to help build did $884,000 in business. It did not come from ad funnels. I tried those, and they worked the worst. It came from relationships.

It took me years to see the pattern in my own numbers. Relationships are the moat. I am not a content creator and I never wanted to be. I just had a reason to reach out, and a system for turning a conversation into a relationship that mattered. That system is what I am handing you in four weeks.

Louis ShulmanFounder, Moat Podcasts

The mechanism

You do not cold-pitch your heroes. You interview them.

Every business needs a superpower or a platform. A reason to reach out to people. An interview is the one invitation almost no one turns down, and it puts you in the room with people you could never reach any other way. Relationships are the moat, and this is how you build them on purpose.

How it works

Three moves, and none of them are complicated.

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Your guest list is your pipeline

You are not chasing big names. You are choosing the right names for where you want to go. Ten people who are one step ahead of you is your entire first month.

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The ask they cannot refuse

Cold outreach pitches a stranger something they did not ask for. An interview gives them a reason to say yes first. You get the templates and scripts that get a yes from people with real networks.

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The conversation that becomes a relationship

Run it so it is never transactional. Take a genuine interest, follow up, and stay in their world. The relationship is the point, not the download count.

Why it is live, and why now

AI can hand you a script. It cannot build you a network.

There is a free video for every step of this. You do not need more information. You need to do the reps, on a deadline, with someone who has done them watching your work. And you need to be in the room when a conversation turns into your next opportunity. That is what a live cohort is for.

Okay, but what is actually in it?

Four weeks. One live session each.

Week01

Your show and your shortlist

Launch your podcast and build the guest list that is really your pipeline. We pick your angle and your first ten people together.

Week02

The ask, and how to never edit again

Write and send the guest pitches that get a yes. And hire a freelance editor for a few dollars an episode, because you are the host, not the editor.

Week03

The interview that builds the relationship

Run the conversation so it becomes a relationship, not a transaction. What to say, what never to pitch, and how to follow up so you stay in their world.

Week04

Turning conversations into opportunities

How a warm relationship becomes clients, partners, and your next job, and how to keep the engine running long after the cohort ends.

By the end: your show is live, your first five interviews are booked, and your first episode is published.

Everything you get

Built to get you launched, not overwhelmed.

Four live 90-minute sessions with me, plus pitch reviews and coaching in every call.
Live guest sessions with founders and operators from my network, the exact kind of people this system gets you access to.
The Guest Funnel Kit: the pitch templates, booking scripts, and interview-to-relationship playbook, handed to you.
The Swipe Pack: 100 guest-pitch subject lines and the follow-up sequences that book the call.
A private cohort community for feedback, accountability, and warm introductions between members.
Every recording, slide, and transcript. Yours to keep forever.

The receipts

The proof this works is my own numbers.

$36k
One interview season

A season of interviews became a relationship with one company, and $36,000 of clients.

$59.5k
The referral

That same relationship referred the single biggest client of my career.

16%
How referrals closed

Referral conversations closed at 16 percent. Cold and paid barely moved.

~300
Interviews recorded

Five years of reps in the exact system you learn in four weeks.

Student wins from this cohort will live here. This is the founding cohort, which is why it is small, and why it starts at $500 instead of what the next one will cost.
This is for you if

You have a full-time job and real skills, and a quiet feeling you are meant to build something. You want to get ready for your next move without blowing up your life to do it.

This is not for you if

You want five clients next week. This is not a cold-traffic slot machine. Relationships are not transactional. Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast.

Why listen to me

I have seen cohorts from every seat.

Founding cohort · 30 seats
$500

for the first 5 seats. Then the price rises as seats fill.

Four weeks, live, starting Tuesday, August 4. Founding pricing rewards the people who move first. The next cohort will cost more and hold more people. I only run the first one once, and I want it small enough to give everyone real attention.

Claim a founding seat from $500

Come to the first two sessions, do the work, and if it is not for you, email me before session three for a full refund.

Questions

Straight answers

Do I have to quit my job? +

No, and please do not. The whole point is that this fits around a full-time job. Four sessions over four weeks, plus the reps in between, and recordings if you miss one.

I do not have a podcast. +

Good. You start one in week one. A podcast is just one platform. We pick yours together on the first call.

I do not have an audience. +

This is not an audience play. It is a relationship play. Your first ten conversations matter more than your first ten thousand followers.

What if I do not even know what business I want to start? +

Perfect. That is exactly who this is for. The interviews are how you figure it out, by getting close to people who already did it, before you risk anything.

Isn't editing a podcast a huge time sink? +

It is, which is why you will not do it. In week two you hire a freelance editor for a few dollars an episode. You are the host, not the editor.

How is this different from cold outreach? +

Cold outreach pitches a stranger something they did not ask for. An interview gives people a reason to say yes first. You need compatibility, not volume.

I do not want to be a content creator. +

Good. Neither do I, and this is not that. You are not building an audience or chasing views. You are using interviews as a reason to build relationships. Most of your guests will have a bigger following than you, and that is exactly the point. The value was never the audience. It is the room the interview puts you in.

What is your guarantee? +

Come to sessions one and two, do the work, and if it is not for you, email me before session three for a full refund.

The next four weeks

Fifty interviews from now, you will not recognize your life.

You can keep waiting to feel ready, or you can spend four weeks building the network that makes your next move a no brainer.

Claim a founding seat from $500 · 30 seats

Starts Tuesday, August 4.